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December 01, 2006

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Phillip

August 2007

Until Mankind Project can take a firm stand and make entirely clear, in all media, that they are not conducting, providing or supporting repartative therapy in any of their groups in any part of the world I personally can not support the work of this group. I will raise my voice in whatever way I might in order to have people making choice from a place of information and safety.

I personally find the thought of Reparative Therapy repugnant and to erase same sex attraction from any ones experience is unfathomable to my mind, my heart and my soul.

My experience of the Mankind Project and The New Warrior Training is not very positive.

First,
Both Chicago and Detroit contacts by phone could not assure me that it would be safe for an out gay man to attend, that gays would not be ridiculed or treated as if they were damaged or somehow wrong for being gay, that an out gay would not be bashed in any way for being gay.

Second,
There is a great deal of information on the internet about the connection between the Mankind Project and reparative therapists as members and trainers in the New Warrior Weekends, the core work of the Mankind Project.


This is an example of one site as viewed today, the site is People Can Change

Bruce R. Gold

Bruce Gold has trained in modalities including Gestalt Therapy, Shadow Work, Imago Therapy, Co-Dependency, Touch Therapy and Voice Dialogue. He offers reparative therapy on an individual basis for men dealing with unwanted SSA issues. Bruce is a Certified Co-Leader in the New Warrior Training Adventure, an intense, transformative men's initiation that invites men to forge a deep conscious connection between head and heart, and that supports men in developing lives of integrity, accountability, and connection to feeling. He has 20 years experience in 12-step recovery work. Bruce can be reached at

From: People Can Change


Paul McNulty, LCSW

Paul McNulty is a Licensed Clinical Social Worker and has been in private practice since 1989. He received his master's degree in social work from the University of Illinois at Chicago, School of Social Work. Paul specializes in therapy with men in the areas of relationships, sexuality, same sex attraction, and various addictions. He is passionate about men's work and is a member of the New Warrior Training community. Paul is also a professional member of Exodus International, NARTH, and American Association of Christian Counselors. Paul's private practice is located in the Greater Chicago land area.

From: People Can Change

Rich Wyler
Rich is a life coach with extensive real-world experience in helping men overcome same-sex attraction and pornography addictions, starting with his own healing journey in the 1990s. In 2000, he founded People Can Change and then, in 2002, its powerful "Journey Into Manhood" experiential-healing weekend – a life-changing program that has helped hundreds of men decrease unwanted homosexual attractions and behaviors. Building on his skills and experience in facilitating dramatic personal breakthroughs – and after years of mentoring men in their individual journeys out of SSA and sexual addictions – Rich established Higher Path Life Coaching and began coaching professionally in 2005. Rich has years of experience in 12-Step recovery work and with the ManKind Project (www.mkp.org). He is a member of the International Coach Federation and adheres to its code of ethics. He holds a bachelor's degree in communications from Brigham Young University.
From: People Can Change

I apologize if this email offends anyone, however, I feel I have to take a stand and say what is true for me.
Please make your own choices.

Joy - Love - Peace
Phillip

joe perez

thanks for posting the info, phillip. i appreciate your perspective. i have nothing else to add at this time.

- joe

joe perez

let me add one note of clarification. i am the author of the original post, not another party (the typepad software displays a different "by line" as the author). in the past, i have recommended mkp as a training for gay and bi men. i no longer have a position on mkp, and refrain from any endorsements or lack thereof.

peace, joe

Phillip

Jo
Thank You and I appreciate you for making it clear that you: "no longer have a position on mkp, and refrain from any endorsements or lack thereof"

Phillip

B. Crittenden Freeman

Hi guys,

I've been in our same-sex community for 3 years now. Previously I was married (and NEVER on the "down-low").

I decided to check out where I wanted to "be" with my sexuality. I attended the weekend workshop by the "People Can Change" organization, which is called Journey Into Manhood and it's follow-up 14 week support group. This work and my own soul searching helped me to make my decision to step into and "Bear" sub-culture of our same-sex culture, in Sep '05.

As far as the ManKind Project is concerned, and whether it is "safe" for gays and whether one is going to be "ridiculed" for being gay, no. There are men who are at all levels in the organization who are Gay:
Chapter Presidents, Weekend Leaders, Weekend Staffers, etc. It is a Gay Friendly organization.

Now, as to the men who struggle with Same-sex addiction? That is their struggle. It is NOT ours. That is the struggle for men who may desire to live lives as heterosexual within the context of a heterosexual marriage with children born heterosexually. And if that is a man's dream and his struggle and if there is a methodology that helps him to achieve it (i.e. the weekend workshop offered by the People Can Change organization), than I consider that to be a good thing. The PCC are NOT Gay-Bashers, MKP are not Gay-Bashers.

Yes, their have been challenges along the way. For example, Gay men coming to a weekend retreat hoping to "get lucky" or preying on other men. Or others who have may have some sort of prejudice towards Gays.

However, that is NOT indicative of the weekend retreat and in fact Gay men have been honored and appreciated for being who we/they are and for the talents, goals they bring to the organization and the world.

Having been in the organization from 1993 to 2006, and from the changes that I have, I bring a unique perspective and experience that very few do.

I hope this helps.

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