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November 08, 2007


Felipe Crook

Very interesting post. I hope religious fundamentalists will some day open up their minds to the potential of living together without killing and maiming for their cause. Thanks for your post.


Just this past Sunday we had a guest at our own Metropolitan Community Church, you know, the gay church.
He and his wife were from a mosque in town, our congregation is doing an exploration series of the different crossroads of spirituality; this past Sunday was Islam.
There was much trepidation about this service leading up to it but when it came time; I thought it helped my averagely ignorant Western mind make room for a bit of enlightenment.
Both he and his wife were very pleasant, both had a quiet, reverent manner, it felt they were both deeply connected to Spirit, which, as the time went by, I felt was a reflection of their devotion to their faith.
I found my understanding of this man's explanation of Islam to be a stark, sensual, tranquil vision of faith.
He talked of the first tenet, being submission to God. He used the word submission and not, in my mind, surrender, a subtle but I think important distinction. The difference in my mind being the difference between; this is dicey, be forewarned,
Spirit-space and sub-space; a distinctly feminine energy space to be in. Whether these two places can overlap or not I am not sure yet.
In a society where so many are only out for themselves it was refreshing to this couple devoted to each other, she to him, and to their faith together.

Kittredge Cherry

Thanks for this insightful and beautifully written analysis. I think that the same stages of faith development are revealed in the various attitudes of Christians toward homosexuality.


I agree with this assessment, Joe. It is mostly the Universalist Sufi Orders who welcome people who have had queer experiences though, largely because they already expanded the Sufi tradition beyond the Islamic tradition. Where Sufi Orders retain Islam in its outer manifestation, it is not likely that they will accept LGBT people.


I wish fundamentalist would just learn to think.


I am a muslim and a lesbian. I am still working on coming to terms with a sin??? i believe in destiny, so there comes my question: how can i be found guilty of something i was predetermined to do. nothing happens without Allah's will. This is probably in every gay muslim's head..


Hi ru,

I grew up a Muslim and I have dealt with a lot of the issues you are talking about. I know first-hand how painful this process can be. But I can assure you that there are deep and incredible rewards to following your heart, and I would encourage you to do the same.

I am from Pakistan, but am currently at grad school in New York. I am involved with some Sufi Orders here as well. If you'd like to get in touch privately and discuss some of these issues, I'd be happy to correspond. My e-mail address is ned (at) naqsh (dot) org.

Be well and never follow anything but your own heart and innermost aspirations.


Btw, don't be misled by my nick -- I'm not a gay man, I'm also a lesbian, so I can understand how queer issues tie in with issues of sexism within Islamic culture ... will be happy to help any way I can.


Ironically ive had a calling to Sufism, as a gay man. Im falling in love with Allah faster than i can keep up with. its awefully confusing, im finding that im being challenged all over again relative to my sexuality and spirituality.I also feel that it is probably Allahs will that i am who i am. i didnt ask to be gay, in fact my mom knew i was before i knew.

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